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A chat with George Maharis October 15, 2007

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George Maharis (left) and Martin Milner in

Early in a phone interview with “Route 66″ television series co-star George Maharis, I acknowledged to him that I had never seen episodes of the early 1960s drama until I received an advance copy of the upcoming re-release on DVD.

Maharis made a startling admission: Neither had he.

“It was the first time I’d seen them in 47 years,” he said.

Maharis explained that “Route 66″ aired Friday nights, when he and co-star Martin Milner were still busy on the set. He’d never seen the TV show he starred in until Kirk Hallam, president of Roxbury Entertainment and producer of the DVD re-release, gave him a compilation of the best “Route 66″ episodes several weeks ago.

His reaction?

“They still work,” Maharis said. “I was really surprised how strong they were. I enjoyed watching them, and for the first time, I could see what other people had seen. I was so far removed from it after 47 years that I could see it very, very clearly.

“And, of course, I kept saying, ‘Who’s the dark guy?’” he chuckled, referring to himself on the show. “You just don’t relate to that far back.”

Maharis, now 79, has been retired for nearly 15 years. He spends time at his homes in Beverly Hills, Calif., and New York City overseeing his investments or creating impressionistic oil paintings — many which can be seen at the Elizabeth Collection in Rochester, N.Y. He says he’s in good health, and his quick and clear answers provide no reason to doubt that. His voice, containing a soft New York accent, has deepened with age but remains recognizable.

Maharis’ career totals more than 70 film and television credits. But it’s his “Route 66″ role as Buz Murdock, a street-smart heartthrob from Hell’s Kitchen, that earned him an Emmy nomination and his most enduring fame. Murdock and Tod Stiles (played by Milner) drifted from town to town in a Chevrolet Corvette convertible, looking for adventure. The show aired on CBS from 1960 to 1964 and inspired at least two generations to travel the real Route 66.

One unique aspect about “Route 66″ was it was shot on location all over America.

“Nobody else ever did that, to my knowledge,” Maharis said. “We worked six days a week, sometimes seven, because we were always behind schedule. You got up at 5 in the morning and you get back to your motel at 7 or 9 at night, sometimes even later.

“And when we’d move the company from one location to another, sometimes we’d lose two or three days of shooting.”

Scripts often didn’t arrive until the day before a shoot. Occasionally, production on a “Route 66″ episode would begin with only half a script, with the remainder arriving later in the week. Directors and actors often were on the phone with producers in California, working out story problems as they arose.

He admitted that such conditions were exhausting, but exhilarating.

“It was kind of like a challenge, and I always did like challenges,” he said. “I always did like things that seemed impossible to do. In those days, we did 32 to 35 shows a year. Now, they do 20 to 22, at most.”

During one shoot in Grand Isle, La., Maharis, Milner and two other crew members rented a house to sleep in because the town had no motels. One morning, they found there was no water in the house for showers.

“I went to the guy who owned the house and said there’s no water,” Maharis recalled.

“He said, ‘Yeah, that’s right.’

“I said, ‘What do you mean?’

“He said, ‘When it rains, it goes off the roof and goes into that barrel. That’s when you get the water.’

“It was very, very interesting,” Maharis continued, “because no matter where you went, every town had its own personality. It was totally different from the other town you went to, even if it was only 50 to 60 miles away. That’s not true anymore. You can go a thousand miles now, and everyone’s wearing the same clothes, singing the same songs, eating the same food.”

Maharis revealed a few interesting tidbits about the show:

  • The original title was “The Searchers,” and it was going to be a half-hour.
  • It was going to star him and Bobby Morris. But before “Route 66″ began production, Morris died. “From the way I got it, he was in his girlfriend’s apartment, had an epileptic fit, and he died,” Maharis said.
  • The name of Morris’ character was Linc. When Glenn Corbett replaced Maharis late in “Route 66’s” run, his character’s name was Linc.
  • Many viewers thought the color of the Corvette was red, even though “Route 66″ was shot in black-and-white. Maharis said in part of the first season, the Corvette was light blue. “But … the cameraman said, ‘It reflects too much light. He had trouble lighting us against the sky because the light blue was reflecting too much light. So, toward the end of the year, they gave us a brown one.”
  • Milner wasn’t the trim-looking fellow you saw on “Route 66″ when he was initially cast. “When they found Marty, he was about 40 pounds heavier, and they told him he had to lose weight. I think he gained some of it back after the show. But he was very good about holding the weight down during the show’s run.”
  • Maharis acquired a Corvette himself. Putting on his best poker face, he told “Route 66″ sponsor Chevrolet that “we may have a little problem” because he had a Ford Thunderbird he would be driving to the set. Chevrolet quickly gave Maharis a Corvette. Of course, there was no problem, because “I didn’t have a car” at the time, Maharis said.
  • Maharis confirmed that his Buz character was inspired by his background, fleshed out by “Route 66″ screenwriter Stirling Silliphant. “He wrote a lot of the character from the conversations we had. Marty … came from more of upper-middle-class family. I came from more of a street background.”
  • Between “Route 66″ shoots, Maharis flew to New York City for a four-hour session to record his first album. Months later, while in the hospital recovering from hepatitis, he learned the album had been released while watching “American Bandstand” on television and seeing host Dick Clark announce Maharis’ first single, “Teach Me Tonight.”

A few tabloids reported that Maharis and Milner clashed on the set because of their contrasting personalities.

“Not true,” Maharis said. “We got along very well. We’re different; that’s very true. But we never had any problem. You could see on the screen there was no problem. We were opposites in many ways, but there was respect for each other.”

Maharis said his favorite episodes included “Birdcage on My Foot,” where Buz admits he was a former drug addict. He also cited “A Thin White Line,” in which Tod was given an LSD-like drug at a party.

One episode that stood out for Maharis was “Even Stones Have Eyes,” where Buz is temporarily blinded in an accident. For that shoot, Maharis wore special contact lenses that reduced his vision.

“I had the contact lenses made because it’s tough to fake blindness in such a short time,” he explained. “We didn’t have enough time (in the production schedule) to do it. So I figured the best thing to do was have a pair of lenses put into my eyes so you don’t have to fake it. I went to (a doctor) and said, ‘I want contact lenses that are opaque. I need to see something, but not a lot.’”

Maharis credited the show’s quality to executive producer Herbert B. Leonard and Silliphant. “Stirling was a very talented writer,” he said. “In many cases, if you had to cut a scene, it wasn’t a problem because there was a lot of meat left.”

As for why he left “Route 66,” Maharis emphatically said it wasn’t because of demands for more money, or that he was trying to break his contract so he could get into movies. It was, he said, because of hepatitis problems starting in 1962.

Maharis was hospitalized for a month and missed several episodes because of the disease. He returned to the set and its 12- to 15-hour days. A few weeks after a grueling scene where he rescued a woman from a near-freezing creek, Maharis suffered a relapse.

“The doctor said, ‘If you don’t get out now, you’re either going to be dead, or you’re going to have permanent liver damage,’” Maharis recalled.

“I wasn’t interested in leaving the show. I enjoyed it; I was having a good time. It probably could have gone two or three more years, and I think they even had plans of taking the show to Europe. That’s what they talked about, anyway, and I would have looked forward to that.

“I was trying to recuperate, and there was all the crap going on about how I wanted more money. It was all garbage. Some people even tried to make it like I never had hepatitis at all. But it’s all in the doctor’s reports.

“I was just ill. It took me 2 1/2, three years to recuperate before I started working again. What should have happened, I guess, was that I should have worked only a couple of hours a day.”

Watching the compilation of “Route 66,” Maharis saw a couple of episodes co-starring Corbett, his replacement. Those episodes confirmed to him what others had long reported — that the chemistry had suffered.

“Glenn was more like Marty than he was like me,” Maharis said. “There wasn’t that balance there. There were no opposites, so to speak.”

Maharis said he was unaware of “Route 66’s” impact on Mother Road tourism. But he was well aware of the real Route 66, even though the show rarely took place on it.

“It’s a great old road,” he said. “It’s too bad what (the interstates) did to it. But now they realize the impact that it’s had, and they’re trying to preserve it now. That’s good; it’s part of our history.”

Maharis was asked whether he’d would make an appearance at one of the Route 66 festivals, if asked.

“No, I don’t think so,” he said. “I would have 10, 15 years ago. But I’ve just entered my 80th year. I don’t know if people want to say, ‘Oh … he’s an old guy.’ I’ve gotten very shy about that.

“But you can keep trying.”

Comments»

1. tim - October 15, 2007

Hey Ron:

That is a really nice interview, straight from the horse’s mouth as it were.

Just like I told you when you started this site, it is THE premier site for current news and views on Route 66. No one else is out there doing as hard a job as you.

Plus you are doing for nothing. Dumb*ss.

tim

2. Ron - October 15, 2007

Thank you for the kind words, Tim

But make sure you use a smiley emoticon the next time you call me a dummkopf, podner. ;)

3. The Wombat - October 15, 2007

Actually, it is merely [and I use this word with caution and respect] a labor of love.

Been there, done that and doing it again.

4. Frederick W. Brink - October 15, 2007

I was just a seven year old Michigan boy when the show started but I watched it most of the time. I wanted to be most like Buz Murdock when I grew up. Nothing against Glenn Corbett, but I was disappointed when George Maharis left the show. I saw other shows he was in, sometimes as the bad guy and they disappointed me too. He will always be the dashing young co-hero that he was in the Route 66 series. Just the idea of traveling without a destination, helping people in need and working for gas, lodging and food to get to the next place seems so American and adventuresome I just want to get in my car and go..

Thank you for doing the interview so we know how he is and how he is getting along.

5. crocodile lile - October 16, 2007

Great job Ron, Thanks a heap. These guys and their show was the reason I purchased a new 1961 red Corvette, 283V8 w/dual 4 barrels & a 4spd stick. Dallas, Texas was never the same. We traveled a lot before Uncle Sam invited me for a visit and on $87 a month I couldn’t afford the $100 car payments so I traded her off.
croc

6. Peter - October 16, 2007

With all the cable channels out there reaching for programming it would be nice if someone could air the reruns. Heck, if American Movie Classics can run original series and MTV and VH1 run shows with nothing to do with music, maybe The Travel Channel could pick it up. With the right promotion it could certainly create some Buz(z).

7. Taf - October 16, 2007

Enjoyed reading the interview and especially those savory “tidbits”.
There’s a complete list of the Route 66 television series 116 episodes at
http://tinyurl.com/275wx3

8. hotnews - October 16, 2007

thanks

9. Jean J - October 16, 2007

That was the most enjoyable article I’ve read in a very long time. Thank you for sharing that with us!

10. redforkhippie - October 16, 2007

He needn’t be shy about coming to see the roadies. We don’t care how old he is. He’s one of ours. If he’s willing to sit around telling stories, he’ll have us eating out of his hand in a matter of seconds.

Besides … men with gorgeous eyes are always devastating WAY longer than they’ve got any right to be, so I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Mr. Maharis were still fully capable of reducing at least a few of us girls to incoherent puddles of mindless estrogen. ;)

11. Denny Gibson - October 17, 2007

Very nicely done. Thanks a bunch.

12. Brenda - October 17, 2007

Thanks for posting this. I now know more about the Maharis-Milner chemistry than I ever did.

13. Stacey - October 21, 2007

I liked this quote best, and it best describes why we all liked to travel on 66:

It was very, very interesting,” Maharis continued, “because no matter where you went, every town had its own personality. It was totally different from the other town you went to, even if it was only 50 to 60 miles away. That’s not true anymore. You can go a thousand miles now, and everyone’s wearing the same clothes, singing the same songs, eating the same food.”

Thanks for letting us in on the wonderful intereview.

14. Pat - October 22, 2007

Thanks Ron. The interview was great. I’m placing an order for my Route 66 DVD’s today.

15. Patricia Kelly - October 29, 2007

It was great to hear George is well. Thanks for the interview.
I’d like to invite all fans of the show to join our discussion group at Route_66tv@yahoogroups.com. We have over 100 members and we’ve been talking about the Route for eight years.

16. Jerry P - November 11, 2007

Excellent interview. I very much enjoyed reading this article, and especially happy to hear George Maharis is doing well himself. I purchased the DVD “Best of” collection a year ago and get a kick every time I put an episode on. This DVD set does not, however, have “Black November”, so I am still looking for it. You would also think that with hundreds of cable and satellite channels, somebody would have a “60s channel” showing Route 66 on Friday nights.

17. Tillie - November 19, 2007

Thank you so much. I was so in love with George Maharis back then! I was a teenager and had pictures of him all over and got every magazine that had interviews! My girlfriend and I watched it every week (even tho my father would make spurious remarks about Buzz’s “soliloquies!” ;) And for my 21st birthday my husband took me to a play in Dayton in which George Maharis was starring. I got a kiss and an autograph from him!! He has the most beautiful eyes I have ever seen!

Just recently I bought a CD of his songs. Turns out it was the same record I had way back when. And I have been wondering where and how he is.

Thank you so much for supplying information!

18. A chat with Kirk Hallam « Route 66 News - January 17, 2008

[...] a special feature, “Route 66″ co-star George Maharis will provide audio commentary on select episodes. That will happen with the May release. Commentary [...]

19. saloon singer - January 17, 2008

Looking forward to hearing his commentaries. This is a terrific interview!

20. Voltaire Gungab - February 25, 2008

Hi Ron:

Just happened to come across this interview. Very informative and I’m happy to get updated on George. Thanks! I’ve always wondered what happened to him. I watched the first 4 episodes of Season 1 this past weekend, and it brought back so many memories. I was a big fan of Route 66 and watched it religiously in Manila where I grew up. George Maharis was one of my idols during my teenage years, and really identified with Buz Murdock. I kept hoping he’d come to Manila to shoot a film, but he finally did (Escape to Mindanao, with Vera Miles, made for TV), I had already moved to the US to study at Northwestern. Is there a recent photo of him somewhere? Just wondered what he looks like now. Thanks again.

21. Ron - February 25, 2008

Here’s a link to a photo of Maharis, taken in November 2006:

http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=72371315&epmid=3&partner=Google

22. Another chat with George Maharis « Route 66 News - March 5, 2008

[...] It’s a good, wide-ranging interview, including a few details about Maharis’ Playgirl shoot and his other non-”Route 66″ work. If you want to check out the phone interview I did with Maharis a few months ago, go here. [...]

23. Carla - March 14, 2008

I remember route 66 when I was a small kid in grammar school. I liked the theme song at the time and enjoyed the show. I even turned into a person who got bit by the travel bug. This interview was interesting. Thanks for posting it. Sorry to hear George feels sensitive about being old. I for one wish I was at his stage. This world has gone wacko and I”m ready to leave! Back then, people treated each other well in most cases. Today, young people all seem to follow the ‘new’ hollywood mantra…. poubt, express unhappiness, look uninterested and look bored. Back then, we knew how to enjoy life even without money. Life was fun.

24. Mark Gaston - April 23, 2008

Is there a way to contact Mr. Maharis directly? I ‘d like to let him know what kind of raw deal he got on that show. I believe the negative publicity affected his career. Just liked his work and he was a surprisingly good singer, that’s all.

25. Ron - April 24, 2008

I cannot give out the contact information for him. He’s a very private person. Sorry.

26. Rae - April 29, 2008

Ron - I have seen ads on-line for the complete set of DVD’s for Route 66, but have not seen them for sale anywhere else. Any inside info on these and if they are worth purchasing?

27. KENT WASHBURN - May 4, 2008

I was a friend of Jon legere a young up and comming Artist from Maine . We both attended the Art Students League In NYC in 1962 . We stayed at the old Martinique Hotel at 32nd St. and Broadway. He had become friendly with George Maharis while they filmed a RT 66 series at Poland Springs Maine ( thats right ,Maine ,nowhere near rt66 ) He apparently had painted a watercolor portrait that became part of the story line. Maharis had told him he would give him a call whenever he came to NYC. Anyhow , one night while he was about to leave our hotel room he told me Maharis might call and would I take his message while he was away . Sure enough later the phone rang and the person asked for Jon and said he was George Maharis. To this day I still dont know for sure if it was him and I have tried to find that particular sequel of RT66 . I do know it was filmed because it was in all the local papers. Curious if any of you hardcore RT66 fans might know what particular sequel that might have been. thanks

28. Nick Fleno - May 7, 2008

Kent, the Poland Springs episode of “route 66″ was entitled “Same Picture, Different Frame. It is episode 95. However, it was a Glenn Corbett episode, not a George Maharis episode. It was filmed in 1964, I believe, and co-starred Joan Crawford.